Lose Fat and Gain Muscle – Simultaneously?

It is possible and lots of people are doing it now including myself,
I will add more later if billy joel does not…

@Dan – No not really, I am not so scientific about this but your estimate is almost correct. I am not a big body building type person so I just have 2 raw eggs in breakfast. That would do wonders.

I think its possible, but like you said Joel, it is very strategic. You have to eat a lot of volume packed with quality nutrients, but low in calorie per volume. This tells your body it is getting plenty of sustenance to grow, but because it’s low calorie, there are no excess calories stored as fat. Also, pairing this diet with strategic training, aka your high intensity training which is much more effective at targeting fat and raising metabolism, you burn fat effectively but, your body is still convinced it is getting enough nutrients to build muscle. Not sure if this is totally correct but logically it makes sense. Let me know if I win a cookie. Doh, wrong prize for this forum…except for cheat days of course.

YES, I would LOVE to know!! Can’t wait to read the next post!

This sounds very logical. Does it work?@KB –

Would love to hear more of what you do, Loren!@Loren –

looking forward to see how its done as i just have to start hitting the gym so his should be the perfect start for me.

Can’t wait to hear this since i weight train and watch my diet and nothing happens

Tried & failed. A lot of effort – but it did lead me into knowing more about what’s healthy and what’s not (just from reading about things)

I’ve struggled with weight loss for many years and need to loses 20lbs. I don’t want big muscles but want to be toned and healthy and FAST before the summer!! Not much to ask!!

I’m in week 7 (of 9) of the muscle overload training workout. I’ve dropped about 10 lbs and cut up, but lost a little size as well. Limiting carbs during the week, but not on weekends as you recommended. Looking forward to your post about it.

I’m ready give me the goods!

yes. i have the last stubborn 10 # to go but can’t seem to lose it when I add weight training .

I want to know more!!! Because this is what I am doing right now!! I am on my 3rd week of the programm ‘Cheat my way thin’ and I was about to start a workout to gain some muscles!!! My 1rst goal was to have more energy to go through the day…Cheat my way thin gave me that. But what about the muscles?
I am already pretty thin. I need some muscle mass now.

Okay! Now I’ve been through heaps (if not mountains) of bodybuilding and weight loss literature. After hours of stressing my mind out, trying to make sense of it all and to separate the science from the utter BS (excuse my language), I’ve come to a conclusion which I feel is the most sensible. In order to lose fat from the body we need to place the body’s nutrition from carbs and fats at a slight deficit from what is actually the required amount of calories.

In order to add muscle, the body’s musculature needs to be placed under calculated stress, so as to cause micro-tear damage and aid the body to recover from the damage and rebuild the muscle only bigger and stronger. This process requires a decent surplus in the nutrition.

I would logically conclude that losing fat and gaining muscle at exact same instance simultaneously in Impossible. However, a cyclic process of high stress weight training and calorie surplus, followed by a period of anaerobic whole body workout with a slight calorie deficit should lead one to results that would let everyone believe that one has lost fat and gained muscle at the same time.

Would like to learn more from Joel!!!

hee you should answer the questions of your customers instead of this …that is not nice…you dont make good advertisement for your cheat my way thin, i had some people intrested but now i sent them the e-book for free :)

I was under the impression it did work simultaneously, so I guess I have much more to learn.

I believe u can and I am living it. Following this routine. It takes time though. Are u Ready.

MWF. Split routine. Morning . 100 pushups. 100 pullups. 100 dips. 100 wide grip upright pullups. 100 KB presses. 100 barbell upright rows.
M. morning This order. Alternate. 25 Pushups. rest 30 sec. 25 pullups rest 30 sec. =100 each. 25 dips. 25 wide grip upright pullups =100. 25 dips.25 upright rows =100. Try to get this done in 60 minutes. If you can do the 25 add weight. Pushups add 25lb or 45lb plate. Pull ups, dips add weight. other excersises just go up in weight.
Monday afternoon – heavy chest day bicep day. very light front,side back delts
and tricep push downs. 5 sets of 5 type stuff. whether barbell or dumbbell
W.morning Order. start out with dips like monday and end with pushups. Keep the pulling motions the same order.
W. afternoon. Heavy Shoulder day. I use KB double 90s Light biccep.
Light tricep.
F. Morning – Start with shoulders and end with dips.
F. Afternoon. Heavy tricip. Moderate bicep. light tricep shoulder.

Tuesday – Thursday – Hang ON!!!!

Tuesday – Jump rope for 1 minute – right into single KB swings. rest 30 sec. U do this for 10 sets. It should take about 20 minutes. Then stay with the jump rope and switch to barbell straight leg dead lifts. for 10 minutes
Thursday. I go out side with the same jump rope routine and I mix fliping tires and squats for the 40 minutes.

Well that is it. I started this routine and I am getting stronger, muscular and my fat lost is SHRinking. Come June I am stepping my Tuesday Thurs. into split days and doing some prowler, sangbag, keg and some stadium steps. On M.W.F. I am going to do some sub and do battle ropes, sledge hammer excersizes.

I would like to know more

I believe I can lose fat and gain lean muscles at the same time if I do my workouts consistently and watch my diet- Iam what I eat and do!

Hi Joel.
I think it’s a wonderful idea to share people’s experiences, setbacks, and success stories before giving us your input. We are all adults trying to work on the same page. I enjoy reading what others say about workouts and diet.thanks ,rifka

Yea I know it’s really hard to do both at the same time.
Usually ends up getting you nowhere, no muscle gain and no fat loss gain :S
TELL US! :D

Hi Joe,

I have both gained muscled and lost fat at the same time on a number of occassions. I am doing it right now. I think it must be different genetics.

All the best David.

I totally want to know how to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. The more efficient I am at how I try to lose weight, the more motivated I become. I want that toned awesome body and I want to lose the cellulite. Please help me!

i had an allergic reaction to stevia. my body broke out in a rash & i had to use topical steroid cream to treat it.