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Gain Muscle and Lose Fat – Super Method #1

Posted by Joel Marion

In our last post on gaining muscle and losing fat we discussed that while these goals do indeed require different training and nutrition strategies, these strategies are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Meaning: You CAN lose fat and gain muscle simultaneously provided you use a strategic, timed approach.

Also in that post, I loosely gave mention to several different methods to achieve both goals simultaneously, and in these next few posts I want to take a deeper, more specific look at each.

Today’s method: MEGA Carbohydrate Loading

With this type of carb loading, you will consume 50% of your total daily caloric intake and 95% of your daily carbohydrate intake within 3 hours of beginning your muscle building workout.

By doing this, you provide your body with a massive surge of carbs and calories at the exact time that it is most responsive to suck up all those nutrients and use them for muscle repair and recovery.

NOTE:  In order for this to work, you’ve got to be doing INTENSE, high volume workouts.

Go with a macronutrient breakdown of 30% protein, 40% carbohydrates, and 30% fat.

Assuming a 45-minute workout, the Mega Carbohydrate Load starts with your pre/during workout beverage, followed by your post workout beverage, followed by a carbohydrate containing protein shake 1/2 hour later, followed by two whole food meals.

The first whole food meal should be consumed 45 minutes after the carb containing protein shake, and then the second whole food meal another 45 minutes later.

The rest of the meals of the day should be protein + fat + veggies (with minimal carbs).

Also, by doing this the bulk of your calorie and carb intake comes at the most anabolic time of the day, and the rest of the time you are actually in a caloric deficit while limiting insulin and carbohydrate.

Here’s an example:

8:00 am: Low-carb protein shake with added fiber; 2 tablespoons of olive oil

10:30 am: 3 eggs plus 4 whites scrambled with 2 slices of cheese; 4 strips of bacon; 1/2 package of spinach

1:00 pm: Low-carb protein bar; 2 oz of dry roasted nuts

3:00 pm: 8 oz Cheeseburger (no bun, wrapped in lettuce); large salad with very low-calorie dressing

5:00 pm (immediately pre-workout): Quickly digested protein/carb beverage

5:45 pm (immediately post-workout): quickly digested protein/carb beverage

6:15 pm: Protein/Carb shake with Skim Milk

7:00 pm: 2 oz of pasta (dry weight); 4 oz of chicken breast; 2 slices of 12-grain bread; package of broccoli

7:45 pm: 2 oz of pasta (dry weight); 4 oz of chicken breast; 2 slices of 12-grain bread; package of asparagus

10:00 pm: Low-carb protein shake with added fiber; 1 tablespoon of olive oil; 2 cups of green beans; 20 grams of fish oil

NOTE: Do not directly copy my diet as it likely calls for far too many calories for your size and build. Instead, copy the structure and the overlying principles based on your own calorie needs. Also, it is fundamentally important to consume just as many green veggies throughout the day in non-workout meals, as is apparent in my example above.

How’s THAT for free content?

Want Method #2? At least 250 comments and I’ll post the “Anabolic Burst Cycling method” tomorrow!

Talk to you in the comments section!

Joel

P.S.  Want to know ANOTHER brand new technique for simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain right now

Check out the below video from my buddy Kyle explaining one of the NEWEST methods we’re using:

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Originally Posted By kazu
man this is intresting…but wouldn’t eating two (whole food meals) with in 45 minutes cause some kind of problem to the digestion process? as u would stuff food over undigested in your stomach!

It’s to give time for your hunger to recover. That’s about the only reason why it is spaced out.

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What does an “intense, high-volume workout” look like?

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@Carlie

Sorry, I posted before I went to bed and don’t generally answer questions in my sleep :)

I’m very active on each post in the comments section, however. Started answering questions at 7:30 AM ;)

Going through your questions, I have answered the majority of them by replying to other people’s comments.

Let me know if you have further questions.

Joel

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Originally Posted By Pres81wr
This is all very interesting. So with our morning protein shake you say to eat 2 tablespoons of olive oil. Are we just eating that off of the spoon plain. And i dont know about you but i work and would never be able to cook eggs and bacon at 10:30 in the morning.

And i bet you get your supplements for free from some company. That stuff is expensive! There is no way i could afford to consume four protein shakes a day. So what do people like all of us do that have to buy this stuff? Is there somewhere that you can get it dirt cheap?

I love reading your stuff bc it makes you look at dieting/working out in a different light. Keep up the good work!

I mixed the olive oil in my protein shake…I don’t mind it.

Keep in mind, please, that you should not copy my diet. You may only need one tablespoon.

As for the supplement stuff, I tend to use shakes for about 1/2 of my meals. i can do that because I get so many nutrients in my whole food meals (i.e. with all the veggies and fiber I eat, it’s not an issue at all).

Also, any “shake” meal is cheaper than the equivalent I’d spend on whole food to satisfy the same calorie content.

Just realize you are replacing food. I spend less money on groceries + shakes than I would going solely with groceries for all my food.

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I will definitely try this!

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What type of fast digesting carbs would you recommend? Can I use any type of proteing powder?

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I read what you wrote, but have a doubt.
You said that the carbs should be arround the training and the rest of the day should be eating protein fat and veggies, but you still have to servings of pasta during the afternoon??

Thanks, María

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Good but definately want to hear more. Is there any benefit to working out in the evening vs morning?

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Originally Posted By maria
I read what you wrote, but have a doubt.
You said that the carbs should be arround the training and the rest of the day should be eating protein fat and veggies, but you still have to servings of pasta during the afternoon??

Thanks, María

It is within the 3 hour window I mentioned (post workout). It is part of the workout carb load.

Joel

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Originally Posted By Tamara
Good but definately want to hear more. Is there any benefit to working out in the evening vs morning?

Not necessarily; just the way I do it…I’m not a morning person.

Joel

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Hey Joel,

I typically do my turbulence training workouts in the evening after dinner (I know, not the best time, but my schedule doesn’t work any other way, I’ve tried. I always do 10-15min of metabolic resistance first thing in the morning too!), therefore, would it be reasonable to say that I should have a slightly higher carb load with my post-workout evening snack? I’ve been trying to avoid carbs at night, but your plan here makes it seem like after my workout is the best time to have something like rice pudding or whole-grain pancakes with berries. Does that make sense?

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Great stuff, Joel. I had heard of carb loading before, during and immediately following workout, bit sort of dismissed it. It works well when aI’m off from work.

My question is, What if your workout is around 6:30 to 7:00pm and bed time is around 10? Is there some way to work this in to such a short window of opportunity without having abelly full of carbs before bed?

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Hmmm . . . not sure that will work for my post-chemo gut but it won’t hurt to try. Thanks for the info.

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@Joel Marion
Sorry Joel, I posted that and as I refreshed you had answered a whole bunch of questions. Thanks heaps for that. I had been following the hundreds of comments on the last 2 Lose fat/gain muscle blogs and I didn’t see any replies so I had my fingers crossed you would address these issues.
The time difference in Norway had me hanging haha.

Have you got any great advice or blogs about protein shakes. Post work out I take a scoop of 100% whey isolate (with water). I heard this was the best muscle recovery/building type to take (that is the one my partner is taking to increase size), but I have read research that says you should only take this post work out. If you take it during the day or when not exercising it will increase fat stores. Should I be buying a second type of Protein for a pre workout? You mention a carb protein drink, I have seen these in the stores. Are they all the same or do you have watch for quality/inferior products?

Keep the great info coming.

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Please post the second method.

Loving the comments so far….

“Hey Joel, is there any way I can get the same results by not doing anything that you said?”

“I’m 120lbs OMG how am I gonna eat all dat?!”

“CARBS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!”

Don’t worry Joel, you really did write a thorough article even though the comments might indicate otherwise. Looking forward to Method #2.

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Guess I have some planning to do :), thanx!@Joel Marion

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Originally Posted By Melissa
Hey Joel,

I typically do my turbulence training workouts in the evening after dinner (I know, not the best time, but my schedule doesn’t work any other way, I’ve tried. I always do 10-15min of metabolic resistance first thing in the morning too!), therefore, would it be reasonable to say that I should have a slightly higher carb load with my post-workout evening snack? I’ve been trying to avoid carbs at night, but your plan here makes it seem like after my workout is the best time to have something like rice pudding or whole-grain pancakes with berries. Does that make sense?

I would wake up earlier and do you workouts in the morning.

Also, turbulence training is more of a fat loss program, not necessarily muscle building per se (yes, you can put on muscle, but it’s not a program specifically built to build muscle).

I would go with a higher volume workout, 8 sets of 8-10 reps for example…2 exercises per workout.

And if you do work out in the evening, post workout nutrition is still needed. Although carbs in the evening is typically not recommended, right after a workout is a different story, even late at night. You’re body is in a whole different “mode”.

Hope that helps!

Joel

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Originally Posted By RichM
Great stuff, Joel. I had heard of carb loading before, during and immediately following workout, bit sort of dismissed it. It works well when aI’m off from work.

My question is, What if your workout is around 6:30 to 7:00pm and bed time is around 10? Is there some way to work this in to such a short window of opportunity without having abelly full of carbs before bed?

See my response to Melissa.

Joel

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Originally Posted By Carlie
@Joel Marion
Sorry Joel, I posted that and as I refreshed you had answered a whole bunch of questions. Thanks heaps for that. I had been following the hundreds of comments on the last 2 Lose fat/gain muscle blogs and I didn’t see any replies so I had my fingers crossed you would address these issues.
The time difference in Norway had me hanging haha.

Have you got any great advice or blogs about protein shakes. Post work out I take a scoop of 100% whey isolate (with water). I heard this was the best muscle recovery/building type to take (that is the one my partner is taking to increase size), but I have read research that says you should only take this post work out. If you take it during the day or when not exercising it will increase fat stores. Should I be buying a second type of Protein for a pre workout? You mention a carb protein drink, I have seen these in the stores. Are they all the same or do you have watch for quality/inferior products?

Keep the great info coming.

A milk protein blend or meal replacement is better than a straight whey during the day.

You need carbs (for the insulin and recovery) post workout along with protein.

The three post workout beverages I recommend are Prograde Workout, Biotest Surge, and Myogenix Aftershock.

Hope that helps!

Joel

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Oh man, This awesome info. Thanks again Joel. I can’t wait for the next addition!

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Wow. Eating like that is how I got fat in the first place. If that works for you, god bless you.

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Keep it coming!!

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Originally Posted By bsenka
Wow. Eating like that is how I got fat in the first place. If that works for you, god bless you.

Adjust to your calorie needs as indicated.

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Great concept and I know that it works b/c I did it…But there is an unprecedented amount of omega 6 fats in your example without the balance of omega 3. The ideal ratio would be closer to 6:1 (6 to 3) but that is even high. Striving for a 1:1 ratio is best. The amount of inflammation factor is through the roof! How about suggesting a fish oil in place of the olive oil and some cold water fish too. I do love that much eating though and I had never done the mega carb loading before which worked great for me!

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Hey Joel, thanks for your post as well as the responses to all the questions so far because it helped me get my mind around it. One thing that I think could be further defined is what is meant by an intense, high-volume workout. I think because “Intense” is typically a relative, subjective term, we sometimes think we’re working hard enough when we’re actually not. If we pair an eating structure like this without hitting an appropriate level of intensity I think results might not be optimal, or even discouraging. Could you elaborate on that or do a video or something demonstrating what is meant by intense in terms of actual work done in that typical 45 minutes?

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